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Which is worse: graffiti or garbage?

Both are against local bylaws.  Both are frowned upon by the good citizens who pay their taxes and are, by extension, paying for both of them to be cleaned up.  Both can be eyesores, a blight on the visual landscape.  But, if I had to choose, I’d take graffiti over garbage any day of the week.  Let’s be clear here, though, that the graffiti I’m talking about is ART graffiti, not tagging a random wall in a school or bathroom stall with a Sharpie; not writing insults and epithets that should be painted over as quickly as possible.

Garbage is indicative of laziness, the seeming inability of the perpetrator to take their junk a few meters over and dispose of it properly.  Graffiti is indicative, often, of an overabundance of artistic energy.  I just wish we had better public places where graffiti was encouraged.

But, what do you think? Garbage or graffiti?

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280 responses

  1. Graffiti….there is way to much garbage here!

    February 22, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    • shyanne

      so you would choose graffi over garbage or the other way around?

      February 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm

    • Definently would prefer to see decent graffiti work using a wall as a canvas, rather than rubbish stacked at the base of the wall. Melbourne is a good example of graffiti used in a postive way, with many walls scatered throught suburbs & covered in huge, colourful murals.

      One thing that I cant stand is the cigarette butts that line our footpaths & gutters. I dont understand the thought process of smokers that mindlessly throw their butt onto the ground once done, without giving it another thought. Like its an acceptable form of littering?

      February 28, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    • Graffiti is good in a way. It keeps the idle minds engaged. Devils dont get their work shops. The society gets lesser problems. the tax payer is benefitted. The Graffer vents out his creativity or frustration. Win Win.

      imho.

      acherian
      http://www.pupacomputers.com

      February 28, 2011 at 8:39 pm

  2. bagnidilucca

    In Brisbane, Austalia, there are several places where graffiti, or public art is encouraged. I think it is a good idea.

    February 24, 2011 at 9:41 am

    • I think it’s a good idea too. I wish there was public space in my city that was used as a public art forum where artists could paint and it wasn’t whitewashed over within days. The space that I photographed is a highway underpass and no one sees it unless he or she is willing to do a little hiking.

      February 25, 2011 at 5:18 am

    • It isn´t art

      February 28, 2011 at 9:59 am

      • It is if it’s covering urban mayhem…

        Spread the humor: charlywalker.wordpress.com

        February 28, 2011 at 1:05 pm

      • shyanne

        it is art it is just a type of art that most people are aginst! if people would just take the time to look at the graffiti they would understand and relize that people put hard work into it and some graffiti is beautiful like i dont think they should put cus words on buildings well i dont think they should do any graffiti on buildings but i am a person that does graffiti and most of the graffiti i c is beautiful and stuff. like i dont do graffiti on the walls of building though.

        February 28, 2011 at 4:09 pm

    • shyanne

      that is a good idea!

      February 28, 2011 at 4:04 pm

  3. You can find some amazing grafitti around London.. I guess its artistic vandalism

    February 28, 2011 at 7:41 am

    • If only London was nearer to me.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:03 pm

  4. It’s a fine line. I hesitate choosing graffiti, simply because it may seem to encourage lawlessness. But of course, it’s expressive and artistic and creative, all positives…

    Public space graffiti, however, seems counter-intuitive. Some will embrace it, but I’m assuming those who choose graffiti for the surge of adrenaline that comes from doing something against the law will continue to find those venues.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:42 am

    • There have been some amazing public-space graffiti projects that I’ve heard of, but never seen because there is a very conservative view towards graffiti around here.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:05 pm

  5. I love graffiti if it is well done. Melbourne also has some dedicated streets for it.

    http://ramblingbadger.com/2010/12/04/melbourne-street-life/

    and not forgetting Banksy:

    http://www.banksy.co.uk/outdoors/outusa/horizontal_1.htm

    February 28, 2011 at 7:47 am

    • Montreal and Quebec City also have some dedicated spaces, but they’re on the other side of my country. I love the dialog it inspires.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      • Also, Banksy rules.

        February 28, 2011 at 12:07 pm

      • Just curious….do Graffiti artists from different countries Tag in their native languages??

        February 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    • shyanne

      i agree with you. i think that if it is well done it is beautiful. that is if it is not the illegal kind.

      February 28, 2011 at 4:12 pm

    • Even bad graffiti is better than garbage.

      March 1, 2011 at 10:56 am

  6. samanthadouglas

    As a teacher I have had great conflict with this discussion, since it’s a touchy subject to expose children to in classes. I personally think graffiti is amazing and is something that could be incorporated into a classroom, but most school districts would shut it down quickly because it would be promoting something illegal.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:50 am

    • I’m a teacher as well and I have my grade 12 students debate this. I think it’s scary when school districts shut down things before debating its worth, past the legality.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:11 pm

  7. Yeh here in N.Y there’s allot of both but as you said Graffiti is art and garbage is garbage. Who wants to live in garbage? Good Post

    February 28, 2011 at 7:55 am

  8. I think garbage is worse. Graffiti is an art-form and exudes creative expression. Of course, I don’t believe anyone should break the law to express their creativity, but I do think some of it is really pretty. Garbage is just annoying because of the intent behind it– laziness! lol

    February 28, 2011 at 7:57 am

    • shyanne

      thank you finally some on that is not insane! of coarse garbage is worse! it is disgusting!

      February 28, 2011 at 4:14 pm

  9. ex360

    art graffiti, but not a lot of people can see it as art and it’s a shame.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:01 am

    • shyanne

      that is so true i am a person that does graffiti but that is because they have like a tunnle that we can vadlize or watever we want and i go down there every day and do some graffiti!

      February 28, 2011 at 4:16 pm

  10. As a performing artist, I often find graffitti esthetically pleasing….when done with some artistic thought on a grayish abandoned street building.(Basquiat was genius!)
    Garbage….those discarded kleenex balls, coke cans, cigarette butts thrown out of speeding cars on the highway….used condoms, tampons, half finished cigarettes discarded from drive bys, or walk bys in the forest….I detest……Folk need to carry around an extra plastic bag like the ones dog owners carry for their dog’s poo…..

    February 28, 2011 at 8:03 am

    • Basquiat was genius, along with Keith Haring.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    • Ohh..what a vision….maybe all that can be recycled into spray paint…..

      February 28, 2011 at 1:17 pm

  11. David Marshall

    Oh graffiti definitely! I love to see the empty cans of organo-phosphate tossed skillfully upon a mountainside, or the elegant sculptures created by industry and agriculture placed for display along our roadsides.

    I mean how can you compare the simplicity of a bit of graffiti art to the dedicated relentless radical creations now fruiting from our dynamic industries. There is no comparison.

    Great shots by the way.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:05 am

  12. manshah

    art is beautiful…GRAFITTI for sure.the idea of locating the artist in one places such as in one street,buildings or even along the highway for me are very positive..

    February 28, 2011 at 8:11 am

  13. I can’t imagine anyone answering that stinky refuse is better than bonafide art… If you included the random annoying, and thoughtless sharpie marks in bathroom stalls worldwide there might be some debate, but not with the options you have proffered. Art>Garbage!

    February 28, 2011 at 8:14 am

    • But what’s sad is that many people I know think graffiti is garbage.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:16 pm

      • Maybe they’re just reading the garbage cans coated in Sharpies….

        spread the humor: charlywalker.wordpress.com

        February 28, 2011 at 1:19 pm

  14. When is graffiti not tagging? If it is painting that was commissioned and wanted at a certain location then it would never have to be removed or cleaned up, thus making it different than garbage – just sayin’

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    February 28, 2011 at 8:19 am

    • Thanks.

      The graffiti in the shot above is, in fact, not commissioned, but is often by professional artists who use this space as a practice area.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:18 pm

      • Reading your comments and all of the comments I had no idea local areas were used to practice graffiti, with that said…I do think there is some beauty on graffiti.

        March 1, 2011 at 10:04 am

      • Actually, in some cities (read the comment from Sam Marshall) areas are designated specifically for artists to express themselves in an attempt to dress up areas that are otherwise ignored.

        March 1, 2011 at 10:34 am

    • I guess you would distinguish the difference by the definitions:
      Tagging – a strip of leather, paper, metal, or plastic attached to something…..

      (which could represent garbage…)

      February 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm

  15. Graffiti, any day. Garbage is the worst. I’ve gone to places that garbage piles like mountains and it’s very unhealthy and destructive. Have you ever watched Hoarding: buried alive? Well, This was on a bigger scale a city scale so can you imagine?

    February 28, 2011 at 8:21 am

  16. Graffiti isn’t an artistic gesture but a reclamatory one, which isn’t to say it can’t *also* have artistic merit, but simply that it springs from a desire to take back the blighted urban spaces it appears in most often. That tagging you dislike so much is just the simpler form of this (not everyone’s an artist.) What graffiti is *not* is the result of an ‘overabundance of artistic energy’ and to say so makes it seem as if the people who do it– usually young urban people of color– don’t have the self-control to pick up a piece of paper and a marker instead. There should of course be more art programs in inner-city areas– ones that can offer instruction and more expensive materials as well as a simple space for expression. But the lack of such programs is only related to the presence of graffiti incidentally in that they’re both symptoms of urban blight. Ultimately, graffiti is not there for *you* to enjoy ( I’m going to make the wild assumption here that you’re not in fact an urban youth of color) and the fact that you think it’s an eyesore more than misses the point. It’s not about what you think is pretty, because it’s not about you, or any other people of privilege.

    Social justice concerns should inform aesthetics, not the other way around. So the correct answer? Is littering (garbage) is worse, because it’s indeed a form of laziness, serves no purpose, and has measurable harmful effects on the environment.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:32 am

    • Graffiti can be there for you to enjoy as long as it doesn’t contain your name…..with a line drawn through it…..

      spread the humor: charlywalker.wordpress.com

      February 28, 2011 at 1:29 pm

  17. How do we decide, then, which is “art” graffiti and which is not?

    February 28, 2011 at 8:34 am

  18. benwarren1word0space

    I personally love graffiti and wish there was more of it, or at least see it done with some kind of message or something positive rather than someone’s ‘tag’. Garbage is really the worse of the too and there needs to be more inovations in trash removal as well as community efforts to keep areas clean.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:41 am

    • I agree.
      Artists like JR and Banksy use graffiti (or street art) to convey a message – as do a lot of others – and by doing what they do where they do, the message that it conveys is so much more powerful or direct than if it was hung in a gallery somewhere.
      That’s how I justify a lot of street art, anyway.

      Great Post, and it’s cool to see the way so many are getting active in the discussion.

      March 7, 2011 at 11:26 am

  19. graffiti. but like you said, the good kind.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:41 am

    • There’s nothing worse than being the proud owner of a business, and one day stepping out to see that your headquarters have been “tagged.”

      My building is not a canvas. You want to be an artist, go buy a canvas and paint.

      However, I am not so out-of-touch that I don’t see a beauty in the artwork. The artwork is beautiful, just not on hard-earned property.

      However, garbage? Nobody likes it. It’s simple as that. I’d take graffiti over it.

      February 28, 2011 at 5:56 pm

      • But this is precisely why I wish there was some kind of public space set up specifically for artistic expression. And not just for graffiti artists and not just in one small civic place. I wish there were spaces set up all over a city in which artists and writers and sculptors and carvers could all express themselves. Take art out of galleries and make it part of your day. I don’t understand why we lock up art and put it away so that only a select few can see it. If it’s about making money off one’s art or protecting certain pieces of art, I get it, but we put art away and let commercialism and marketing take up all the spaces where we could be expressing ourselves.

        This is exactly what I love about Banksy (it seems he keeps coming up here). He’s figured out interesting ways to make money off his art, but when he started it was all public and socially conscious and artistic. He wasn’t just putting his name on things and his messages were appreciated. In fact, Bristol city council even voted to keep his “Park Street Indiscretion” (check out the Notable Art Pieces section 2006). It’s more than just tagging and marking territory. It’s social commentary.

        February 28, 2011 at 6:13 pm

  20. I sometimes enjoy graffiti. I never enjoy garbage. By the way, I want to eat the citrus in your header photo.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:41 am

  21. I agree totally. The problem is that they seem to go together as graffiti is usually in spots where the artist is likely to be left alone so he has time to work. That’s the same reason garbage is dumped in the same place- not likely to be seen.

    It would be good if there were public areas where artistic grafitti could be encouraged, but (insults and epithets aside) who is going to decide which is artistic and which should be painted over?

    February 28, 2011 at 8:46 am

  22. I’m a big supporter of real graffiti (not tagging) and have a lot of respect for real graffiti artists with all their talent and daring.

    It is a shame that there are not more public spaces that are open to graffiti artists to use as their canvasses. A beautiful piece of artwork would be a damn sight better than ugly concrete walls that’s for sure.

    I really don’t see how one can compare graffiti to garbage. Garbage has to be cleaned up and cleared away, no question, but graffiti doesn’t have to be cleaned up and scrubbed off, it is just our perceptions of graffiti as ‘unacceptable’ that make us clean it off.

    Just look at Banksy’s work. Because he is an internationally recognised and accepted graffiti artist his work is considered ‘acceptable, and is therefore protected, rather than scrubbed off. If his work can bring this kind of acceptance, other graffiti artist’s work could too, if we only changed our perceptions.

    I would like to see the attitude towards graffiti change form ‘eyesore’ to ‘public artowrk’. That would be good.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:49 am

  23. I walk to work every day and unexpected graffiti always makes me smile, especially in the winter. What other artists would brave -30 with a windchill for the sake of art? A request – more poems, please.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:50 am

  24. Graffiti art is awesome, but tagging sucks. The tagging should be painted over ASAP, as well as the garbage being picked up ASAP. Both are gross.

    Cool post, BTW! Congrats on being FP!

    February 28, 2011 at 8:55 am

  25. csesch

    Definitely graffiti. When I was in Germany there was a graffiti war of sorts. Falafel verses currywurst. It was thoroughly entertaining.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:01 am

  26. Oh, garbage definitely! I’m with you- I do not advocate random tagging on underpasses, but I have seen some amazing works of art…

    February 28, 2011 at 9:10 am

  27. I’d say garbage is worse. It’s dirty and smelly.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:12 am

  28. Geoff Lee

    I like graffiti more, although I feel that sometimes garbage can be turned into an art. I don’t necessarily like the graffiti in the picture above, I’m more of a street art fan. The other day, I was on Sunset Blvd. and ran across a giant Shepard Fairey “Obey” piece. It was awesome and added more character to the otherwise empty wall.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:12 am

    • Street art like Banksy? I appreciate that one man’s junk could be another man’s art.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:19 pm

  29. Garbage is worse. It just sits there and rots, where graffiti is spreading a message. I photograpth graffiti when it pops into my world, but garbage never.
    Nice post.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:15 am

  30. Garbage is way worse.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:19 am

  31. bleaver03

    Graffiti as an art form is so highly under-rated, cities need more places to exhibit and expose this incredible art form. I love this photograph, great work!

    February 28, 2011 at 9:21 am

    • I think there are cities that have come to embrace the commentary that is inspired, but not enough of them. My city paints over it – doesn’t matter what the quality or comment might be.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:21 pm

  32. Nice read!

    February 28, 2011 at 9:21 am

  33. Garbage is definitely worse than grafitti – grafitti can look amazing if done right. And more would be done better if it was encouraged in a controlled way and not frowned upon.

    I totally agree with you – garbage (or rubbish as we call it over here in the UK) is indicative not just of laziness, but a lack of caring for your surroundings.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:32 am

    • Oh, and I forgot to say – love the photo. Very moody.

      February 28, 2011 at 9:33 am

  34. i think it’s a bit stupid to compare graffiti to garbage in a discussion like this.. no offence, but graffiti as ‘art’ as you call it (you’re probably refering to ‘street art’) is not even close to graffiti. As an artist i can tell you that most of those graffiti writers that get up a lot have been developing their styles for many years, they’ve drawn sooo many sketches, typographies, characters… more than most of good illustrators did i’d say..

    and graffiti and street art are the fastest developing and most present types of art nowadays, they surround us, they form our cities, they form the urban space..

    unlike garbage, that, well, yes, it makes a city more ‘urban’ than a green village, but garbage has no meaning, it has no esthetic values and i think it takes more money to clean garbage than graffiti.. it damages our lives in many ways. i’d say that most of the people are used to litter (maybe just a bit!) and therefore are more tolerant to garbage lying on the floor, but they’re not used to see graffiti writers ‘damaging’ public walls, that’s why graffiti isn’t tolerated so much..

    graffiti > garbage

    February 28, 2011 at 9:37 am

    • I agree that it’s a bit stupid, but too many people in my profession (education) see graffiti, all graffiti (artistic or otherwise) as garbage because of its illegality. I referred earlier to this as a space wherein professional artists come and practice what they will do in a commissioned piece, and other artists come because it’s a largely un-patrolled space that is only painted over by other artists. I should have been more clear in my post about the differences between street art and graffiti, although I would argue that most people who see street art don’t know what they’re looking at and call it graffiti.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:28 pm

  35. Where I live now, most of the graffiti is of the random tagging variety and that I consider to be the same as garbage, if not worse. Garbage you can pick up and toss. This stuff requires laborious scrubbing and harsh chemicals.

    Art graffiti on the other hand, LOVE!

    February 28, 2011 at 9:40 am

  36. garbage is worse. they both arent exactly sweet…but garbage piles just depress me

    February 28, 2011 at 9:41 am

  37. Graffiti hands down. It’s art.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:48 am

  38. fireandair

    Are you kidding? I LOVE beautiful graffiti.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:50 am

  39. Graffiti. Definitely. There are several places here in town that are covered with artistic graffiti and I like them. Most of the time, the colors brighten the area and create attention, which I would think would be good for nearby business.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:56 am

  40. Recently I saw some beautiful graffiti on train cars passing by as I waited at the railroad stop. I will admit some of it may have been “art”, it looked more like destructive vandalism to me. And I remember thinking how much it would cost the owner to remove the artwork from each car.

    I think it would be great to have designated areas for public art. Perhaps it would provide a more constructive outlet for graffiti artists.

    That being said, I think that graffiti just for the sake of “tagging” is disrespectful of public property. And trash, well, that’s a combination of disrespect and neglect. What the solution is? I don’t know.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:59 am

    • Therein lies the problem here – can we designate spaces in public that are open to public expression that won’t turn into places of tagging and vandalism?

      February 28, 2011 at 12:32 pm

  41. I personally love graffiti. It’s a pretty neat form of art.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:01 am

  42. To answer your question, I am going to say neither. If people want to graffiti, then why don’t they start with their homes? I wonder how many will do it then.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:02 am

    • The few artists I do know have started within and outside their own homes. They are looking for commissions and often use their own spaces to start out.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    • You should see what I did to my room just recently… before redecorating I decided to have a go at Motion-painting ( in the style of Blu’s Muto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuGaqLT-gO4 )

      I’ll be uploading photos to my blog soon, and ventually the finished(ish) video.
      =]

      March 7, 2011 at 11:31 am

  43. Graffiti! At least it doesn’t smell! ;) Congrats on being Freshly Pressed.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:04 am

  44. Garbage.
    A graffiti park would be a good idea. It could be a tourist attraction, have competitions between solo graffiti artists, and team artists and award scholarship prizes toward a degree in an artistic field.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:05 am

  45. Anyone can litter. At least graffiti can be (isn’t always, but has the potential to be) artistic, creative and poignant. Less laziness and more creativity sounds good to me.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:10 am

  46. I think Graffiti should be allowed by law, as long as artists use their freedom not to deface old buildings, but to bring beauty to the old and abandoned places. A true Graffiti artist respects their enviorment and helps make the dull and dark cities a better place to walk in.

    A person I know told me how he saw an artist use a flower stencil on the sidewalk. He made a long chain of pink identical flowers along it’s border. It was something so simple, yet I was smiling when I saw it. Artists bring their inner joy to others, and Graffiti artists have the advantage of doing that on the street, in the darkest places, to the cold and often apathetic crowd.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:12 am

  47. Graffiti. Garbage is the result of consumption. Graffiti is the result of creation. If more people made things instead of just using stuff up we’d all be better off.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:14 am

  48. Garbage. Graffiti can have aesthetic value while dumped garbage does not. Plus, garbage attracts creatures that transmit disease and poses other health risks.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:19 am

  49. Ash.Allen

    I think if every wall in every city was covered with art and graffiti, the world would be a much happier place.

    and if at the SAME time trash would be forever removed… ahhh! magical! :)

    February 28, 2011 at 10:21 am

    • I like your outlook. It makes me smile.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm

  50. Garbage is the sign of decay, laziness and abandonment whereas graffiti is a sign of life- it’s the re-use of a space abandoned by lawful society and in many cases adds texture and personality to so-called “non-spaces”. Frankly, I’d take graffiti over most things any day!

    February 28, 2011 at 10:21 am

  51. Ten feet high garbage, there are stains and spills, smells and spilt spirits To make us think of the bum who drink away their night, not even to finish their beverage. Ten foot high grafiti, stains and spills are intended, smells of the night crawlers are blown away and only their spirit remains, the spirit of creation, voice and view to picture and word.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:23 am

  52. Setting aside spaces for public art, doesn’t address the cause of most graffiti – marking territory. We’ve had places in my city where graffiti art was encouraged and left-up, and it (and surrounding walls) were still regularly tagged by people trying to mark their territory (I’m not talking about art graffiti over art graffiti, I’m talking about tag graffiti over art graffiti, ruining it).

    I don’t get the point of the choice – it’s not like choosing garbage will lessen graffiti or choosing graffiti will lessen garbage. They are separate problems, except in so far as they are both abuses of property, and potentially both caused by thoughtless people.

    Personally, I find graffiti more “offensive” since garbage can be caused by weather taking rubbish from where it was meant to be, and by accidents. Graffiti is purposeful – you never accidentally tag a wall.

    Having said all that, nice photo!
    :)

    February 28, 2011 at 10:27 am

    • The point of the choice wasn’t that they were interchangeable. This was a late night rant sparked by an off-hand comment made by a colleague that graffiti/street art/tagging (I know they’re not the same thing) was a bunch of garbage. I countered, arguing that some of it was art, but his supposition was that if it was illegal it was junk. I know what junk is and I know what art is and I’ll take art over garbage (a bit of a tautology, I will concede).

      February 28, 2011 at 12:44 pm

  53. jule1

    Graffiti, for sure, with the caveats you mentioned. But honestly, it shouldn’t be painted on private property. There should be designated space for it. Mostly I like looking at it from a subway window when I’m going into (or back out of) the city.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:28 am

  54. Ans

    I wish I had saved a recent blog I read on WordPress, it had tons of pictures of tasteful graffiti!! It was very impressive. Why would people want to be known for spray painting “Vometknife” yes… spelled incorrectly… throughout Atlanta anyway? Maybe some people just enjoy ticking the world off?

    Also, you would assume most people would choose graffiti over garbage, however…

    http://swick.co.uk/index.php/2009/09/20-works-of-garbage-art/

    February 28, 2011 at 10:33 am

    • I assumed so, but from the comments here, some people think it’s garbage.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:46 pm

  55. I think that graffiti is better, as long as it has some sort of artistic sense. I like murals too, because they are more organized and normally are in some importance to the community.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:35 am

  56. bayoubyme

    Garbage.
    You can pick it up and throw it away. It takes a lot longer to get rid of graffiti. Many times, when you see graffiti, it is a “tag” that a gang uses to mark their territory. Gangs don’t bring anything good to an area…

    February 28, 2011 at 10:37 am

    • I guess I should have clarified the difference between street art and tagging and graffiti. They’re not the same thing, at least connotatively.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:47 pm

  57. I could not agree more! I love graffiti that is just mind blowing, it amazes me that these artist have the ability to do this. I wish they could realize that they have a gift and that they could use their gift to put their mark on our planet. I also agree with what you said “I just wish we had better public places where graffiti was encouraged.” we talk about how art should be encouraged and “equal opportunity” yet we don’t have a place for the “odd balls” to be creative or speak their mind, I think it’s a sad statement on the human species.
    Also I agree with the statements on trash, trash has its place and thats the dump not on the side of the road to later on wash in our storm drains for us to drink. So I agree completely with your post.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:44 am

  58. “Graffiti” is inherently a manifestation of tangible interaction with one’s environment. Graffiti upsets people who are afraid of the vulnerability of their environment as well as their own lack of understanding and interaction with it.

    Litering is born of automatic behavior response, almost always done flippantly and almost never with any semblence of altruistic ideal let alone contrived decision making. It is laziness and disconnect manifest.

    In this way, littering and graffiti are almost two entirely different constructs, and yet share a strikingly similar concept. While they both are a a palpable interaction with one’s environment, one of them is born of a purge creative energy, while the other exists in almost an entirely seperate and distinctly less altruistic state.

    Deciding which graffiti is or isn’t “meaningful” or “artistic” is Always a subjective evaluation; it is never right, and it is never wrong.

    Litering is never right, and it can never be wrong, either. It is nothing but the Truth. The Truth is that it is common among humans in western cultures to treat their environment as if it were garbage. Graffiti does the opposite by Acknowledging the environment in a creative form.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:54 am

  59. You can’t beat good graffiti, its and art and looks fantastic especially in urban areas that are normally associated with the art. However poor graffiti, like any other art, is as good as garbage, and can be a little hard to avoid especially when its on the 89 rail cars that are preventing you form getting to work on time.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:55 am

    • 89 rail cars. Ha!

      February 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm

  60. I’m all for public spots where graffiti is encouraged, but if I owned a building and someone tagged it, even if it looked amazing, I’d be pretty angry. And where I live, you never see any “good” graffiti, it’s all just kids with spray cans that think they’re cool writing their teenage gang slogan on walls and fences, it might as well be garbage. I would guess the bulk of Graffiti is an eyesore, there’s only a handful of true “Graffiti artists” in most areas, and there’s not much sense in spending thousands or more of taxpayer’s money to give them a playground, let them buy their own “canvases”. I’d rather have neither, is this the society we live in now? People can’t fight the urge to throw trash everywhere and deface property that doesn’t belong to them?

    February 28, 2011 at 11:05 am

    • I hope my question wasn’t an either/or.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:50 pm

  61. I love graffiti as well as other public, guerilla art. Even random tagging can sometimes be interesting and visually appealing.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:07 am

  62. garbage is worse, everyone needs to express their emotions through art. having a public space for art would be nice in chicago. plenty of graffiti artists.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:22 am

    • Public space would rule, but how do “we” make that work?

      February 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm

  63. It’s all a matter of perspective. If you are the business or property owner who is the unlucky recipient of “urban art” then baby it’s as bad as a trash can out on your sidewalk that will never get picked up until you paint over it, it lowers property value and is a nuisance.
    If you are sitting in your local Starbucks and admiring said artwork and going home to your spotless neighborhood, then yes graffiti is preferable to garbage.
    Graffiti artists need to find a legal, productive and less rude way to express themselves. JMHO.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:24 am

  64. oomphoo

    Artistic graffiti is always welcome!

    February 28, 2011 at 11:28 am

  65. Garbage all the way… (although the definition can be a little subjective.) ART Graffiti is beautiful in my opinion, assuming is public art on a public space and not on private individuals property.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:29 am

  66. graffiti!!!!!!! I love some of them and there is a whole neighborhood in this city full of graffities, it´s part of the neighborhood.

    Have a look at them!!

    http://wwwanderers.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/art-street-art/

    February 28, 2011 at 11:31 am

    • Thanks for the link.

      February 28, 2011 at 12:51 pm

  67. Garbage, of course, looks worse. A lot of times, graffiti is frowned upon, but most of the time, it’s those kids that just go around writing. True graffiti art is beautiful, from Bombings to Pieces. A skilled Writer is what makes it appealing, rather than the Toy who wants some fame.

    Anyway, that’s all I got to say.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:32 am

  68. Trash is definitely worse than graffiti – specifically as you pose it.

    Leave it to local government agencies though to create laws that they have zero intention of enforcing (reminds me of Obama on DOMA and a couple other laws) unless it smacks them right in the face.

    In our town, littering is punishable by up to $1000 depending upon where it happens. The city council and police, when pressed by citizens about trash and enforcement made excuses for not enforcing the law.

    If a local government has such laws and fines from such infractions do go to government coffers, then one would think that law enforcement would want to pay at least a little attention to littering if the fine pays more than speeding. Granted, speeding is a safety issue, but if all you focus on is speeding and not litter, then people won’t want to live there and it’ll just become a dumpy speed trap.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:46 am

  69. Garbage. Graffiti don’t smell, unless it is painted in SHIT!

    February 28, 2011 at 11:58 am

  70. marleneconcha

    http://marleneconcha.wordpress.com/

    February 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm

  71. Graffiti it an underestimated work of art <3

    February 28, 2011 at 12:31 pm

  72. J Roycroft

    Garbage gets collected, eventually. Graffiti however leaves it’s mark for others to clean up,usually at the property owners expense. I have no problem if the property owner gave permission for the graffiti. As far as illegal graffiti goes – That would fall under garbage along with it’s so called artist. Congrats on FP

    February 28, 2011 at 12:39 pm

  73. SL Jones

    Graffiti is easily better than garbage.

    My personal favourites from the wall outside my house are ‘BAZ LUVS SHARON’, ‘TIM IZ A COCK’, and the beautifully drawn ‘WANK CUNT ARSE FACE’

    Jokes aside, when it is done well graffiti can be truly awe inspiring – whereas garbage is never nice.

    It is a shame there is so much useless graffiti. I guess like everything, it is the idiots that ruin it for the majority!

    February 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm

  74. Great photo. Have you seen Exit Through the Gift Shop? It really shows how street artists are doing great things with graffiti in some places. (Well, the first half of the film, anyway.) I’d definitely choose the graffiti over the garbage. Good post!

    February 28, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    • I really want to see it, but the podunk theaters around here would never show it. I’ll have to go hunting.

      February 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm

      • It’s on Netflix Instant Watch!

        February 28, 2011 at 3:00 pm

      • Cool. Thanks.

        February 28, 2011 at 3:39 pm

  75. Colin L Beadon

    Garbage is very detrimental to health. Most graffiti, certainly not all, is an eye sore, yet it may also be a way to let off steam.

    February 28, 2011 at 12:57 pm

  76. I say graffiti, at least some of it can be nice to look at which I can’t say about garbage.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm

  77. Garbage is picked up once a week, as long as you set your cans out…

    I’ve seen Graffiti displayed in areas that have actually enhanced the neighborhood. I think these wanna be Picaso’s need to re-direct their Tagger Talent….

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    February 28, 2011 at 1:02 pm

  78. I think graffiti is worse for the very same reason you allude to, it is perpetrated. It’s like a big F-you from the perpetrator. While the majority of garbage is undoubtedly deposited through thoughtlessness, it can simply migrate from well intended disposal sites to areas where it becomes an eyesoar through natural causes like wind, or it can even be dropped by accident without malice, elements of scale notwithstanding. Regardless, innattention is not akin to antagonism. Graffiti is unmistakeable in it’s intent to defile. Not only does it destroy property, but it’s craftmanship is arguably intended to intimidate, thus destroying dignity. Furthermore, just because something has technical merit, that doesn’t make it art, and even so, being artistic doesn’t make exempt it from the mores of public display. I can (and do) pick up garbage. Usually, I’m mumbling something along the lines of “stupid jerks!” But, I feel helpless when my public areas are vandalised by graffiti, because I cannot immediately do anything to undo the damage done, which I assume is the perpetrator’s intent, and I’m usually mumbling something much stronger then.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    • Graffiti isn’t to intimidate. At least the “Art Form” of graffiti isn’t. If you’re talking about the gang graffiti, etc, I completely agree with you. I’m a graffiti artist, and even I don’t like the look of gang graffiti, or words they spell out, etc.

      I’ve stated before, that graffiti that is almost ALWAYS disgusting to look at is done by kids or toys, but us older folks who’ve been into graffiti for years (I’ve been doing it most of my life), do so as an art form.

      Now, I’m not saying we do it all legally, but we at least make it nice. Yes, it’s forcing people to look at our names, or whatever it is we write. Like we’re some sort-of dictatorship spraying the streets; But honestly, we follow media and they write only what they want us to hear.

      Any who, it’s been a long while since I’ve done any illegal graffiti, but most of the legal graffiti I’ve done was approved. So am I forcing my graffiti upon others? No.

      February 28, 2011 at 1:18 pm

  79. Agreed. Garbage is much worse. Graffiti can give the streets color and life– vibrancy. I don’t mind much of the graffiti in my neighborhood, it is a continuation of the public murals that my area of Brooklyn is dotted with. The garbage however is everywhere, especially after all of the snow. It does represent people’s laziness, but also poverty– in other neighborhood, with wealthier constituents, the garbage gets picked up more frequently, and the filth does not become so dramatically foul. Here it stinks in the summer and look hideous most of the rest of the year. As a teacher and as a mother I worry that kids, who are incredibly observant creatures, see the differences in neighborhoods and develop a clear sense of where they they stand in the priorities of our leaders.
    Your photograph, by the way, is phenomenal. The texture, the architectural elements. I love it. (Even if what it represents makes me sad.)

    February 28, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    • Thanks for the nice words.

      February 28, 2011 at 3:18 pm

  80. Generation 26

    I’m with you on this one. Graffiti can be beautiful. Growing up nobody ever says “oh what a beautiful overflowing trashcan”

    February 28, 2011 at 1:12 pm

  81. I find both of them equally distasteful. You can add to the group “display signs.” The kind that are stuck in right of ways at street corners and turn arounds on highways. You know the kind, “Bad Credit, call us for a no credit loan on a home.” or better yet, “One and two year old cars for sale, bad credit O.K.”

    February 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    • I never thought of those. I hate those things.

      February 28, 2011 at 3:21 pm

  82. The motivation behind this question, with an answer that is more or less pre-determined, puzzles me: What is worse? Celine Dione or Adolf Hitler? Facebook or global pollution? The former is controversial, loved by some and hated by others. The latter is, at best, supported by a miniscule fringe.

    As an aside to commenters who consider graffiti art: It is not that simple. Notably, most of the graffiti ever made is artistically valueless and made by complete hacks—many of them merely wanting to have their works visible or to make a “I was here” statement. It can be art, but it does not follow that everything in the genre should be considered art.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:26 pm

    • I must confess to a bit of intellectual laziness. Without knowing that WordPress would pick today to post that photo, I tried to convey the difference between graffiti and art with capitalization. If I had known that a couple thousand people were going to read this, I would have expounded on the subject, exploded the differences between what is art and what is graffiti and what is tagging and what is street art. Alas, nothing is simple when a great number of people ring in on any subject.

      February 28, 2011 at 3:27 pm

  83. I think that garbage (rubbish) is far worse. Although, both can create wonderful art forms.
    I recently blogged about graffiti, asking whether it was viewed as art or not.
    Maybe you and the other people who’ve commented would be interested.
    Jamie

    http://jamieonline.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/the-hague-graffiti-or-art/

    February 28, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    • I too think that garbage is worse, graffiti is organized art from a disorganized theme.

      March 1, 2011 at 12:03 am

  84. photomark77

    It has to be 100% Rubbish/Garbage as at least you use your brain and inteligents slightly when spraying graffiti, and wait for it……Graffiti is Art, There are some great graffiti examples out there, i do think tagging is stupid and maybe just as bad as garbage though.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:41 pm

  85. Graffiti all the way, granted there are a lot of examples of bad graffiti but I have actually seen some really beutiful stuff. Also littering is my biggest pet hate. I live on a farm with a main road bordering all the fields and the amount of rubbish people toss from their cars into fields with animals in clear sight just disgusts me it is so lazy and irresponsible.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:49 pm

  86. I agree with you….can’t stand seeing somebody throw cups, wrappers, or anything out of their car windows!

    February 28, 2011 at 1:49 pm

  87. Debra Colby-Conklin

    I’ve found the graffiti on the trains as I sit and wait for it to pass by, a wonderful distraction. Whereas seeing the garbage along the side of the train tracks really angers me. So, I pick graffiti.

    February 28, 2011 at 1:54 pm

  88. garbage is worse by far… check out some of the great stuff Bansky made… there is also some other pretty amazing artists out there that never gets gredit for anything they make..
    I also agree that some graffiti is pretty meaningless.. it all depends on how and where it is made, as with anything^^

    February 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm

    • I teach a class that encourages observation of social unrest and Banksy and others like him try to raise public consciousness about issues that are often taken for granted or ignored. I appreciate anything that raises awareness. That said, sometimes I like meaningless beauty…or is it that beauty is the meaning?

      February 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm

  89. I’m from the South Bronx where both trash and graffiti are in abundance. The graffiti is actually the most beautiful thing in my neighborhood other than the Puerto Rican culture. When local legends die, they are sometimes immortalized on the brick walls through a dozen cans of spray paint.

    Definitely graffiti.

    February 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    • That’s so cool. Is it socially acceptable there, then, or is there a sense of illegality about it? I get the sense from most of the people in my city that any graffiti, memorial or otherwise, would have to come down.

      February 28, 2011 at 3:42 pm

  90. i’d choose graffiti anyday.
    garbage looks bad and smells bad, where as graffiti looks bad… sometimes.

    February 28, 2011 at 2:43 pm

  91. Rob

    Garbage.

    February 28, 2011 at 2:51 pm

  92. Graffiti.

    Speaking as an active writer.
    Look at the aspect of how much energy is involved. Garbage, to me, depicts a lazy individual. Who probably, in a personality aspect, looks for the easy way out. A graffiti writer puts a lot on the line just shaking up a can.

    February 28, 2011 at 3:03 pm

  93. I think the scene is rather pleasant in black and white. The patters and textures are more interesting and organically full than a diseased, broken, dilapidated and disrespected underpass. With color I think the failings of this place are more obvious, or are they the failings of the people who visit here? Which is more significant? Things that have a function are not always interesting to look at unless you have some academic interest in the function of the object that is presented – most people don’t care much about underpasses so long as they don’t collapse the individual is using them. On the other hand form or representation often gets distorted, misinterpreted or taken out of context by those who care more about function or who look at things from a reductionist viewpoint. I think that if defacing property is the worst offense for those involved then those individuals and society in general will recover for their losses – fines and taxes shall serve their intended purpose. But the social issue here is definitely not about people throwing trash around and defacing property. This is the remnant of a wound – the scar tissue, not the real offense that created the wound.

    February 28, 2011 at 3:10 pm

    • What you may or may not be able to see is that the foreground is littered with “former things”. Let me explain: besides being a practice area for budding graffiti artists, a great number of our city’s homeless population use this area as a refuge. In this refuge are the remnants of a wage-earning scheme, if you please. The casings all around near the shopping cart are from copper wiring accessories, and the insulation from copper wiring itself. Some of our more industrious individuals clean up (or “clean up”) around construction sites and then strip the insulation off the copper wiring and trade it in at the local recycling facility down the road from here. It may be the only income they get in a week, and it may have come from less than legal means. So, it’s not just stuff thrown out of car windows, but it is indicative of a much larger problem happening in my city.

      Black and white changes the perception of the area, but sometimes knowing the whole story changes how something looks, too.

      February 28, 2011 at 3:38 pm

  94. MechanisticMoth

    As long as the graffiti is artistic instead of just tagging, then I would definitely prefer that over garbage. I really like street art for arts sake and not just quickly spray painted letters.

    February 28, 2011 at 3:12 pm

  95. Definitely artful, harmless graffiti over garbage! wonderful post. thanks for sharing. :)

    February 28, 2011 at 3:18 pm

  96. Graffiti. In Manchester there is a little space for excellent graffiti that gets replaced every so often (don’t know exactly when) and the artwork is always amazing.

    February 28, 2011 at 3:35 pm

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  98. If is done well graffiti can look absolutely stunning…these individuals are artists…and can make otherwise drab grey buildings look like works of art..eliza keating

    February 28, 2011 at 3:46 pm

  99. Graffiti doesn’t destroy the o-zone!

    February 28, 2011 at 3:58 pm

  100. As a subject for photography, graffiti is decent. But in our country where it is “deliberately” posted on one’s door or gates, it’s not. However, I appreciate it if it’s in a photograph because it becomes eye-catching and a piece of work at that. Nonetheless, I would choose graffiti over garbage.

    Great photos, by the way!

    February 28, 2011 at 4:19 pm

    • Thanks for the encouragement.

      February 28, 2011 at 5:01 pm

  101. I have always loved seeing well done graffiti. I think it’s beautiful and often improves the look of the area it’s been painted in. I actually have quite a few friends who are very good at it, and their work is true art. Is it against the law? Yes. But if it’s done well, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with it at all. This taxpayer likes it. :)

    February 28, 2011 at 4:45 pm

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  103. rundog67

    Garbage is definately worse! It’s gross and stuff!!! And at least graffiti doesn’t smell and pile up!

    February 28, 2011 at 5:10 pm

  104. I’m going with graffiti. Graffiti sure has become something different. It’s not just letters sprayed on a wall.

    February 28, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    • I guess I always think of graffiti as more than tagging – not just territory being marked.

      February 28, 2011 at 5:41 pm

  105. A. Stevens

    Social art is beautiful. I have seen some truly breathtaking graffiti and some moronic graffiti. As long has the painting is appropriate, I’m all for tagging up the walls.

    Trash however, cannot be beautiful. No matter how artistically it is tossed– it deseres to be thrown away.

    I’m pro-graffiti. Great post

    February 28, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    • Thanks very much.

      February 28, 2011 at 5:40 pm

  106. stylistnc

    I say garbage is worse. As long as the graffiti is more of a visual art form and not some random tagging gang signs. Some of those graffiti are beautiful.

    February 28, 2011 at 5:41 pm

  107. I definitely say Graffiti !
    people that try to come up with a huge summary about why Graffiti is ugly or garbage is better are just simple minded people who are not creative or artistic in anyway.
    I understand it is “unlawful”, but what is the “law” something created by man to restrict others to do certain things, Most are understandable, but not graffiti. Maybe toy stuff and idiotic gang tags < not GRAFFITI. If you travel to Brazil it is LEGAL or Spain ..illegal , but everywhere ! … it is worldwide and will never be rid of. It has been around for eons,ages, centuries, because it is a way expressing your mind, the creativity in you mind that reflects upon yourself.
    Thank you for this post !
    Im going to be posting some of my Graffiti photography …
    Check out my Blog for updates

    http://www.mrcastano.wordpress.com

    PEACE

    February 28, 2011 at 5:56 pm

  108. Fox

    I agree with your sentiment that graffiti is often an over abundance of artist energy. Particularly the classy graffiti that encourages a different perspective and mocks the world in a light-hearted sense. I’m thinking of Banksy here, and his is work that is widely accepted. :)
    People have creatively manipulated the act of vandalism into an art form that makes streets a little more interesting to look at. What I’d like to see is more people manipulating garbage or cleverly rearranging it that it may become a publicly acceptable art form.

    -Fox

    February 28, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    • Man, Banksy sure is getting some mileage here today.

      February 28, 2011 at 6:15 pm

  109. I would definitely take graffiti over garbage! Yeah, sometimes graffiti can be distracting and somewhat annoying, but I still consider it art, which garbage is definitely not.

    February 28, 2011 at 6:20 pm

  110. Christine

    I would definitely prefer graffiti over garbage. At least graffiti is colorful and won’t mingle with the snow and create a grimy mess D:

    February 28, 2011 at 6:25 pm

  111. Interesting post. I enjoy photographing graffiti, and appreciate work which has an interesting message, or real talent is being displayed. I think we can all live without mindless tagging, and yes, I would choose graffiti over garbage anyday.

    February 28, 2011 at 6:39 pm

  112. Jolene Y.

    It’s probably both. I just read a similar post here:- http://derekrake.com/graffiti-is-garbage/ and it seems that graffiti and garbage has become somewhat indistinguishable. It’s pretty sad, really.

    February 28, 2011 at 6:43 pm

  113. While garbage is no less an eyesore than graffiti, it is less permanent.
    So saying, many towns in Australia have employed professional graffiti artists and/or youth groups to decorate public and private blank spaces. Illegal graffitiests always respect another person’s art and leave it alone.
    Haven’t come up with a solution to garbage, though.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    • That’s really cool that those towns have done that. How is it that they choose the spaces and artists to decorate these designated areas?

      February 28, 2011 at 7:26 pm

  114. Graffiti is an art form and since art appreciation is in the eye of the beholder I suppose to some the garbage would be more attractive. I think it does depend on the graffiti though because some is just scrawls. At the same time I’ve seen art made out of garbage that is amazing. My desktop is actually a picture of graffiti, but it was legal. During a music festival called the Maha they had a long wall of white canvases where they encouraged people to create. One person, I still don’t know if he was hired or just a random guy from the audience, went to town. After every act you’d turn around and see a completely different picture before your eyes. Downright mazing and a lot more energy, planning, and talent than littering….

    February 28, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  115. goldenpast

    I enjoy looking at Graffitti and consider it a form of art. That is, if it’s appropriate and isn’t spreading the message of hate, racism, or war.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:25 pm

  116. Of Course Graffiti. Writing insult or epithets in toilet and other public area arent graffiti, that are Vandalism or ” Garbage”

    February 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm

  117. Grafitti! atleast there’s something good to look at the ones without faces ofcourse :)

    February 28, 2011 at 7:31 pm

  118. Perhaps this adage would help: A weed is a flower the wrong place.

    Garbage obviously does no belong in the street, but in trash cans, to be recycled.

    Graffiti (the artistic type) may still be a nuisance to the general public, although I do support good graffiti being kept on walls.

    Perhaps the main difference is that graffiti has more potential to become art than garbage. Litterbugs will never be artists, but people who spray graffiti sometimes aspire to be.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:34 pm

  119. I’ll take graffiti over garbage any day. Graffiti is healthier and easier on the nose!

    February 28, 2011 at 7:41 pm

  120. I grew up in Philly, in the city, and graffiti was a fact of life. I see it at various times as artistic expression, as political expression, as vandalism. It can be stunningly beautiful and it can be a blight on the senses.

    February 28, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    • There’s really no way to throw graffiti into one category, is there?

      February 28, 2011 at 8:04 pm

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  122. I love graffiti. I don’t mind waiting on trains because of it.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    • Except I keep trying to shoot photos through my windshield while waiting on trains.

      February 28, 2011 at 8:30 pm

  123. Shanno

    at least graffiti (the artistic looking kind, not stupid tags) is entertaining. there are a lot of trains in my city to get stuck at daily and i usually find myself checking out all the colourful graffiti on the sides of the cars.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:17 pm

  124. Megan

    I am currently doing my Thesis Interior Architecture project on a youth urban center an and gallery which is focused on graffiti and urban art.

    Love the question, it only supports my Thesis that graffiti is slowly being considered ‘real art’ to the greater public.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    • We’re trying to commission one of our students at the school at which I teach to “graffiti” our student leadership room. I thought it would be fitting and incorporate student influence into the school. I’d love to read your thesis.

      February 28, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    • Jim Hagen

      You might want to gather something more than anecdotal proof for your thesis.

      February 28, 2011 at 10:47 pm

  125. Graffiti done well IS art. The end project is striking in its beauty; the means to the end may be objectionable. garbage is garbage… unless of course it is that plastic bag flying on the updraft filmed in the movie American Beauty. That made garbage ART.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm

  126. you’re right, good graffiti is art, and it’s beautiful and much more expressive than many other kinds of art.
    you’re right on the second count as well, bad graffiti is just as bad as garbage; both are signs of laziness and ineptitude.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:40 pm

  127. I like looking at graffiti if it’s colorful and artistic because I know I could never do that. Anyone can toss out garbage.

    February 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm

  128. JCS

    I totally love Art Graffiti, I think that it takes some real talent to do that kind of art. Especially in the dark, at night, with the adrenaline of being caught.

    They used to have a place in Toronto in the industrial district where all the graffiti artists came to work called “Brick Works”. The closed it off and demolished the building not to long ago I think. It’s a shame that that kind of thing happens these days.

    Some pictures still remain though – http://silenceassound.wordpress.com/2010/10/10/from-bricks-to-bombs/

    Graffiti over garbage always!!

    February 28, 2011 at 9:03 pm

  129. I do like some graffiti. I don’t think there’s ever wanted or appreciated garbage (hence the term) but there can be appreciated graffiti, in the right context. That being said, in my own personal space, I’d probably chose to have neither if possible.

    February 28, 2011 at 9:44 pm

  130. A Regular Teenager

    come on man….once you see the condition of third world countries, you’d chose to prefer graffiti over garbage anytime
    http://www.regularteenageworld.wordpress.com

    February 28, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    • True, but once I saw the conditions of a developing country, I had a hard time leaving. Too much to save, too many to save, and the garbage and graffiti all take a back seat.

      February 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm

  131. I love artistic Graffiti too and completely agree with you that there should be more public places where it’s encouraged.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:02 pm

  132. I look at most Grefiti as art to begin with. The problem is allot of it is missguieded. There are allot of tallented people who just arent beeing pointed in the right direction. Think about it. Would you like a oil painting if it was a gang sign telling you to F Off? Is it still not art? It may be foul but you cant change the facts.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm

  133. Jim Hagen

    Get it straight–grafitti is garbage. It’s vandalism, it’s antisocial and there is no such thing as a grafitti artist.

    February 28, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    • Have you seen the work of David Garibaldi or Keith Haring or Basquiat or maybe, because his name hasn’t been mentioned here enough, Banksy?

      March 1, 2011 at 5:45 am

  134. Tony McGurk

    Graffiti may be seen as an art form but it is still public vandalism regardless of how artistic it may be. It makes streets, buildings, parks & other public areas look like ghettos. If these so called artists want to express their creativity why not put it on canvas, or their own homes or cars. In my opinion it is an eyesore. Garbage can more easily be cleaned up. I had a friend years ago who had a brand new automatic garage roll-a-door covered in graffiti the 1st night after he had it installed. I know for a fact that he didn’t appreciate the “Artwork”. If they want to vandalise let them vandalise their own property

    February 28, 2011 at 11:01 pm

  135. Completely Agree. Graffiti art = amazing. I have been dreaming for years that someone will construct a skyscraper and let the artists of the streets go to work. That would be a building I would want to see. Thank you for your post!

    February 28, 2011 at 11:13 pm

  136. I find garbage more untolerable.

    February 28, 2011 at 11:53 pm

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    • Thanks for the repost and the nice words that accompany it.

      March 1, 2011 at 5:48 am

  138. Garbage left laying around is a passive expression of contempt, laziness or thoughtlessness. Graffiti, even when it is unpleasant, does express something actively. I choose Graffiti.
    Peace

    March 1, 2011 at 12:19 am

  139. artistcritic

    What a complicated question. There are so many kinds of graffiti and so many kinds of garbage. One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. A lot of Fine Art actually comes from garbage. Didn’t Rauschenberg start making his Combines by searching the city for bits of trash? Also, trash is usually pretty easy to clean up while graffiti tends to be more difficult to deal with. I don’t like seeing gang graffiti. I would rather see a mars bars wrapper on the corner then a something on the wall that lets me know that Baby Crip 210 is bangin’ on my block. I like graffiti when it’s in a place that makes sense and it’s in mural form. If it’s just tags and gang messages then I would rather have the trash. I think that graffiti generally shows a lack of respect for other peoples property. Imagine if they painted on your windows or your door? I think graffiti belongs in certain places and not others. I don’t want it on my bedroom wall but if there is some garbage on the floor its not such a big deal. Graffiti has its place but in general I would rather see them just keep things clean.

    March 1, 2011 at 12:19 am

  140. cessolivarez

    i think that graffiti and garbage are the same?!

    but on my wn graffiti is worst than garbage,,,

    March 1, 2011 at 12:42 am

  141. travelling on trains seeing random artistic graffitti is good.
    tagging i understand.
    random dumping of rubbish I abhor.

    March 1, 2011 at 12:45 am

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  143. germanymarie

    Grafitti. Especially the art kind. I, too hate the random, useless (garbage) tagging of lazy people… but when the art grafitti is given a place to shine, it’s amazing. There’s a dedicated half-kilometer of space for it here in my city and the work is gorgeous. It gets painted over every few months and the artists can come back and do it again. All cities should make a space like this, or like the alcove just north of Brooklyn in NYC. It nurtures community and art all at the same time.

    March 1, 2011 at 2:23 am

  144. Garbage! I adore ART graffiti and I hope one day we can find a compromise perhaps even a Volunteer project to turn “garbage” in “graffiti art” in some of the places that need a little uplifting!

    March 1, 2011 at 2:42 am

  145. Kim

    Garbage is worse of course! Graffitis are absolutely okay, because they don’t harm the environment.

    March 1, 2011 at 3:04 am

    • In fact, that’s the point, most of all

      March 1, 2011 at 6:56 am

  146. They are both quite important, I don’t think this can be a question of preference.

    The opinions exhibited at the top of this page are quite strange. Garbage represents laziness? Surely garbage can be seen as being a product of an excess of activity, there is too much happening too fast for it to be cleared away. Garbage is also a sign of our culture and our times, hiding it doesn’t work: perhaps because this “dysfunctional” approach there is a surplus of litter that we can’t help but notice.

    Then there is the idea of good graffiti and its contrast with tagging. What is good graffiti? It doesn’t develop out of nowhere, Michelangelo di Ludovico Buanarroti Simoni wasn’t instantly a good graffiti artist without first practising and learning from his mistakes and through sketches when he was young, equally Banksy would have gone through a period of making what you have suggested is “bad” art: not to say that everything he does now is “good” art.

    What is most worrying about this idea is that the cause of these things is not at all acknowledged. The problem isn’t with the litter or the tags or the “art”. Its with the culture that hosts them. The need for people of all ages and creeds will graffiti, it is not a matter of right or wrong and it is not a matter of legality. When people feel oppressed, when people feel trapped, or as though they have no voice they can attempt to create one. This is not to say that this explains graffiti because I cannot do that, the reasoning is as complex as the human mind is.

    I agree that graffiti artists could have their authorized sites, although it makes its own sites anyway.

    March 1, 2011 at 3:14 am

  147. Graffiti all the way…

    March 1, 2011 at 3:14 am

  148. Definitely graffiti. As long as it isn’t inappropriate, I enjoy seeing works of art on the walls sometimes, whereas garbage is just stinky. Let’s face it, you can’t pull off a Picasso with garbage, can you?

    March 1, 2011 at 3:46 am

  149. One of my pet hates is littering, so i’d say that rubbish is definately the biggest sin. Besides, some graffiti (even tags) can look pretty cool.

    March 1, 2011 at 4:07 am

  150. hieuthao

    equal

    March 1, 2011 at 4:10 am

  151. Hmm.. interesting. I was writing an article about street art in Jakarta for karbonjournal.org, due to the street art workshop by Jakarta 32c, a biennially event by local artist initiative, ruangrupa. There was this guy, Zeus, who created a big chain made from wheatpaste, and hijacked them by stick the wheatpastes on several billboards at many locations in Jakarta.

    What he’s trying to say is that he’s sick of our local government who lets almost every public space in Jakarta feel like a commercial zone. If any kind of street art (murals, graffitis, wheatpaste, etc) are banned on public space because of the aesthetic reason, why can’t they control billboards, which by the way, (on their own way) also ruin the city’s view.

    Couple weeks ago I also asked a question on twitter, “If you may choose, which one do you prefer, street art or billboards?” Like I predicted before, most of them preferred street art. But then there’s an interesting comment from my friend–one of karbonjournal editor–he said, “The most irritating one is a street art, on public space, that is made to promote the artist himself.” So I assume it’s more like a graffiti or any form of street art that only display the artist/group’s name without any interesting social issue/ context. Just like a “John was here” doodle that we often see on the bus shelter.

    So I can’t say I’m not surprised when you decided to make such a provocative title like “Which is worse: graffiti or garbage”. Because at one point, I already knew what you’re trying to say.

    March 1, 2011 at 4:14 am

  152. Graffiti Is an expression of the urban soul, though illegal I would much rather see beautiful pieces of art around the city than stockpiles of garbage exhibiting the sad state of humanities laziness.

    March 1, 2011 at 4:16 am

  153. I’m a prosaic soul, so this is a no-brainer for me: yes graffiti, no garbage. It doesn’t matter which way you look at it: garbage brings disease whereas the worst-possible graffiti won’t.

    March 1, 2011 at 4:37 am

  154. Renegade Spark

    Hello there squire, I am sure me old mucka Banksy would agree that there is a place for graffiti. In many areas of London (such as Brick Lane) it don’t half brighten the place up.

    Of course there is a downside to graffiti – when used maliciously to promote certain extreme views or to vandalise property and when it’s used for marking gang territory. However these are usually far less artistic and often contain many unintentional spelling mistakes.

    Places like skate parks don’t look right without graffiti.

    March 1, 2011 at 4:40 am

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  156. badgerorbust

    I definately agree with what your saying here, ‘graffiti art’ can be beautiful, where I live there are some underground passages and sides of buidings which have had sponsored graffiti art painted on them and they make you smile every time you walk by. Thats art in my mind, something that makes people react be it positively or negatively. Tagging is certainly not art (although it can be funny, not that I’m saying its good).

    badgerorbust

    http://badgerorbust.wordpress.com

    March 1, 2011 at 5:38 am

  157. Graffiti good….garbage bad.

    March 1, 2011 at 6:01 am

  158. Really, Graffiti over garbage by far as graffiti to some is a artistic means of expressing one’s self can be painted out if you choose not to view, on the other hand garbage leaves a stench and can cause communicable diseases.lol

    March 1, 2011 at 6:10 am

  159. I have always found graffiti to be a useful tool for artistic expression. Those who have seen graffiti expos will vouch for this. Garbage is just laziness which is unacceptable. So, I say garbage is worse. Ugly to look at and even smellier to smell?

    March 1, 2011 at 6:13 am

  160. The original graffiti were cave drawings, a valid form of expression of self and community. Garbage is simply that which is no longer wanted or needed, waste. If graffiti is so offensive perhaps those who indulge find the society in which they exist objectionable. Our garbage is an expression of our disposable society. “Graffiti Alley”in toronto runs south of queen street from spadina to portland. Artists and fans have taken over graffiti alley for a 24-hour period of legal painting. They converge on an area that’s usually empty except for delivery trucks and garbage cans. We should hire ourselves to reduce the garbage so we can spend more time painting our stories.

    March 1, 2011 at 6:19 am

  161. Angelo

    this is like comparing your toilet and your bed,well if u rank em on the same grade you must be some filty,,,Grafiti is an art,is people expressing their way to the public. yes i understand that not every1 has the same skills of drowing or makin grafitti, but i think its a good contemporRY ART,AS NOT EVERY1 affords a show room.so i kind of find it silly to compare it wiv garbage.

    March 1, 2011 at 6:23 am

  162. I don’t think anyone likes watching garbage…Grafiti on the other hand, if it is Art as you mentioned…it’s ART.

    March 1, 2011 at 6:30 am

  163. Of course, ART graffiti are always the best.

    March 1, 2011 at 6:55 am

  164. I couldn’t agree with you more! I have quite a few friends who are actual Graffiti artists and the work that they create is mind-blowing and simply amazing. Graffiti that is ART, that is more than just a tag on a random wall, is meant to inspire and awe people just like all other forms of art are supposed to do. So yeah, I would definitely take Graffiti over garbage any day — although people have made some interesting pieces of art using recycled garbage ;) Congrats on being Fresh!

    March 1, 2011 at 7:16 am

  165. poisedpen

    Both were plenty fine as subjects of nominated documentary feature films during this year’s Oscars (Waste Land and Exit Through the Gift Shop). But now you have me wondering about the artistic possibilities of graffiti depicting garbage…

    March 1, 2011 at 7:29 am

  166. Well put. I have always thought that buildings were there and kids want to express themselves; therefore there will be graffiti. I kind of looked on the bright side and thought this adds character to the city, but I think your angle makes a lot of sense though.

    March 1, 2011 at 7:48 am

  167. I love graffiti as
    public art
    created by outsider artists
    expressing the lives and desires of a city.

    It is a beautiful thing when done in the ‘forgotten’ or ‘overlooked’ places of the urban landscape. I feel there is a place to instruct youth not that graffiti ‘is bad’, but where to best put it.
    (example: some tagger who consistently hits a church, a school, and cars near my neighborhood. yech.)

    The spirit behind graffiti is beautiful in its ephemeral fleetingness, its demand that our cities recall the human need for expression and vitality…

    Ryan

    March 1, 2011 at 8:10 am

  168. Definitely graffiti. At least some of them look like something that came from out of a brain.

    March 1, 2011 at 8:14 am

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  170. On the surface it seems like graffiti is a lesser evil than garbage. But I would say that is short-cited. If you allow graffiti today you WILL have garbage tomorrow. People are lazy, and they are especially lazy when they see that other people are being lazy. It’s really no different than the broken-window syndrome (a few unfixed broken windows in a neighbourhood will lead to a whole lot more).

    If you accept graffiti today, people unconsciously perceve the area as uncared for… and they in turn stop caring for it themselves.

    There is no end to media that people can use for art, and I have no issue with building owners painting whatever they like on their OWN buildings. But graffiti, by definition, is not art – it is vandalism.

    March 1, 2011 at 8:45 am

    • The “broken window” syndrome is a major issue, especially in areas similar to where I photographed this and other shots.

      I feel like a skipping record (how’s that for an nostalgic reference), but I wish there was a way to take this type of art out of the dark and show it off and at the same time find spaces that would allow it to happen and, thus, legitimize it. I don’t condone vandalism, but I do love good art.

      March 1, 2011 at 10:25 am

  171. sender

    What’s worse, office park sculpture or an old canal that’s full of mercury?

    March 1, 2011 at 8:58 am

  172. Anyday anytime…i’ll go for graffiti…i love em

    March 1, 2011 at 9:00 am

  173. Taylor

    Saying one type of graffiti is art and another type isn’t is, well, pretty subjective. On what authority can you legitimately say a tag isn’t art whereas a mural is. Tagging is part of the art of graffiti.

    Also, do you think people start out making huge, intricate murals? Or, do you think they start out by writing their name on a wall, in a bathroom maybe. If you guessed they started out tagging, you’re right! Graffiti, like any art form, is a skill that develops over time, with practice.

    Furthermore, writing something on a wall can be more political / artistic than making what you might call “art” graffiti. Tagging an advertisement can be an artistic expression against the infiltration of consumerism on what can be termed public visual space.

    Anyways, I prefer graffiti over garbage – tagging included.

    March 1, 2011 at 9:26 am

    • I get in some trouble when I start to discuss this topic because I don’t like the fact that much of what used to be public space is now privately owned. My commute is full of billboards telling me what I need and when I need it and where I can get it. I hate that, but they’ve paid for the space. At the same time, it’s my choice to look and be influenced by these paid messages. I do, however, smile when some ambitious person gets up and changes the message, distorts it in an attempt to remake the message or parody the message. It’s totally illegal, but when private corporations spend as much money as they do in order to take over some part of my brain, I want to take those parts back.

      All the while, I am an educator of high school students and when some student decided to deface school property with his tag, I get annoyed, not at the artistic expression but at the cost that is incurred by the school to remove the tag. Money comes out of other, more worthwhile, budgets to remove graffiti.

      I happily ascribe to the theory of cognitive dissonance on this topic. I like it where I like it, and don’t where I don’t.

      March 1, 2011 at 10:31 am

  174. Addison

    Well said.

    I love graffiti, it holds such a magnificent art form. I love being able to walk under a tunnel and have it surround me, or follow it down an entire building on a block. It brings cement, concrete, and bricks to life. It would be a great idea to have places where graffiti can be expressed. However, I hate tagging. Such as people stating their presence where ever they please, such as signs, windows, and where ever else.

    Graffiti is art, as long as it is done respectfully and correctly. Tagging is not.

    March 1, 2011 at 9:29 am

  175. Dan

    Unfortunately, even great looking Grafiti is done on other peoples property or on public property WITHOUT PERMISSION.
    Grafiti without permission is offensive.

    March 1, 2011 at 9:33 am

  176. Ivy

    Graffiti has always been around in some form or another – and so has garbage, for that matter. But graffiti can be fantastic and creative (the good kind) or just destructive and stupid (the bad kind) – just as garbage can be fantastic and creative (especially when it tells us about ourselves, or we find cool things to re-purpose in it etc.) or just sad and destructive (overflowing landfills because we throw everything away.)

    I think graffiti also can tell us about cities we visit or issues that are going on in a certain area. Interestingly, garbage can also tell us about what is going on. If you want to get to know someone (or a town), look through their garbage.

    I like graffiti, I look out for it, and I generally think it has it’s place. Is it always brilliant and beautiful? No. But neither is any art or person.

    March 1, 2011 at 9:34 am

  177. i love graffiti. good stuff, not ‘ was here!’

    March 1, 2011 at 9:56 am

  178. All County Insurance - Brea, California

    Graffiti is better than garbage any day of the week!

    March 1, 2011 at 9:57 am

  179. love the way you have compared graffiti and garbage…and then the meaning you took out of each keep up the good work….
    I too have a photoblog here check it out sometime…
    http://www.avikabir.wordpress.com

    all the best…
    avi

    March 1, 2011 at 10:26 am

  180. I like Graffiti but not like that. I like it when its artistic. I even like garbage if its made into something. I think your picture is trash more than graffiti or garbage. And yes, there is a slight difference! :)

    March 1, 2011 at 10:26 am

  181. I like graffiti. City should open up more space for this kind of art because some illegal graffiti place is too dangerous for the artist (by the railroad… climb up, etc)

    March 1, 2011 at 10:34 am

  182. There is not real choice here; artful graffiti will always win out in this discussion.

    March 1, 2011 at 10:39 am

  183. Mnemosyne

    {Side note: I love this picture which ties both subjects of the topic together}
    But if I had to choose, absolutely, hands down, it would be graffiti. Like you said the tagging and insults are inappropriate and should be cleaned up, but garbage just draws the eye away from any potential spaces where the graffiti could be. But in a way, I still enjoy the visually appealing tag-graffiti that are painted onto the side of train cars and buildings. If they’re pretty, I see no reason to complain about it.
    ☮ & ♥

    ~Nym

    March 1, 2011 at 10:49 am

  184. Garbage is, I agree, an indication of laziness and promotes apathy rather than creativity! I totally agree with you!

    March 1, 2011 at 9:45 pm

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  186. I would absolutely take graffiti any day. There was actually an article in one of CMYK magazines that I remember reading about someone who actually paid an artist to put graffiti along a fence (I believe) that lined his yard. When created tastefully, graffiti can be extremely interesting and expressive art. I used to have a lot of interest in abstract art, and graffiti has a similar raw emotion that I really enjoy… I don’t mean gang symbols or, like you said, obscene things written on bathroom walls, but real art from people that mean to make a real point.

    March 2, 2011 at 9:19 am

  187. i think graffiti is better than garbage right?

    March 2, 2011 at 4:25 pm

  188. T.Ferrell

    An Interesting Debate!

    Personally I maintain that garbage is a much greater evil than graffiti. Graffiti, now considered by many as an art form, is a reversible damage. The long term damage done by garbage and pollution is a serious concern and one that shouldn’t be taken lightly! Besides, and lets be honest here, a lot of real graffiti just looks downright cool! :)

    P.s keep up the good work, nice blog!

    Sincerely
    Tim Ferrell,
    HR Manager,
    CBA Solutions http://cbasolutions.wordpress.com/

    March 2, 2011 at 4:58 pm

  189. Jolene Y.

    If graffiti is nicely done, it’s a piece of art. Garbage, on the other hand, is garbage. :)

    March 2, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    • That is well, and succinctly, put.

      March 2, 2011 at 10:25 pm

  190. Following the comments per email, I have seen several opinions that I would like to comment upon in combination. Broadly speaaking these opinions are:

    1. Graffiti is an art form.

    2. Graffiti makes boring concrete more enjoyable.

    Now, if we accept these opinions as true, then the question arises whether there is any particular reason why graffiti should equalled with “street art” (for want of a better phrasing):

    Firstly, in as far graffiti is art, there is really no reason to constrain it to walls and buildings, nor even to the typically large format. Instead, the same art could validly be practiced in a form suitable for e.g. art galleries. (Some graffiti is obviously made to fit into a specific context of a particular building; however, as with any art form, there are simply variations between the conditions of individual works and the presence of special cases does not invalidate the principle.)

    Secondly, there is really no reason to constrain “street art” to graffiti. Consider among other possibilities murals, aesthetically pleasing color and form combinations of the houses per se, and decorative plants (e.g. ivy).

    March 3, 2011 at 6:19 am

  191. Graffiti all the way, People just need to get over the fact that it going to happen, Lets give the underside of the bride some character, and it is art, why do people photograph it all the time, or use it as inspiration for graphic design? because its cool, people are making these images at night with a can of spray paint, pretty neat.

    March 3, 2011 at 6:21 am

  192. M

    Graffiti definitely. Graffiti has now evolved into an artistic culture…why would anyone want to get rid of that? And it has roots in history like any other genres of contemporary art, only it was never accepted into some bourgeoise academy because it doesn’t comply to any academic standards.

    And about the other choice–Tossing garbage into the environment we live in is plain offensive. No comparison.

    March 3, 2011 at 12:52 pm

  193. I completely agree with you. Garbage is worse. There is not thinking when tossing something away, whereas truly inspiring graffiti takes talent and forethought. Of course there is a time and place for everything. Perhaps we as a society need to either de-stigmatize the term graffiti as it is associated with vandalism for vandalism’s sake and reassign its significance to a truly universally appreciated art form. Great post!

    March 4, 2011 at 11:14 am

  194. I would rather see graffiti all over instead of garbage. You can’t see garbage as something pretty or creative. It will always be the same stench and mess. Now graffiti although it’s illegal it can be done in a legal way! I’ll prefer creativity in the streets.

    Liked the post!

    March 5, 2011 at 5:34 am

  195. christineidonotcareaboutanything

    Clearly I prefer the graffiti. The trash show the insensitivity of people that prefer to pollute the environment, affect the health of all, than to throw trash in their garbage. Instead, the ART graffiti can make the bad side of a city beautiful. ART graffiti makes you feel that there is hope. Makes you feel a little free…

    March 5, 2011 at 8:54 am

  196. biologywilson

    Graffiti, yes, and certainly Light Graffiti which i’ve included a fine eaxample of.

    http://www.michaelbosanko.com/photo8567662.html

    March 5, 2011 at 9:13 am

  197. SWK

    I’ve seen some pretty amazing graffiti, and it makes me think that, wow, some of these kids or whatever have some artistic talent! Should be encouraged.

    March 6, 2011 at 6:06 am

  198. Graffiti Art is one of the most radical contemporary ART MOVEMENTS.

    March 7, 2011 at 3:05 am

  199. I would easily say that graff is better than garbage. In my adolescence in Queens I was obsessed with graff. While I tend to like more of the throwee/fill-in/tag variety, a nice piece is cool also. Even now, as an adult I still pay attention, though I will sadly admit most of the younger vandals are lacking in style. And graff doesn’t smell.

    March 7, 2011 at 10:21 am

  200. Graffiti !

    March 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm

  201. I find graffiti beautiful

    March 7, 2011 at 1:09 pm

  202. I just got done spending time in Melbourne, Australia and I have to say, a city can be graffiti art friendly and still be extremely clean. There are alleys and lanes in Melbourne that have been completely consumed with some of the most incredible street art I’ve ever had the pleasure to see, on the same hand the city is extremely clean and well maintained. Graffitti art can beautify a city, that’s the way it should be.

    March 7, 2011 at 11:08 pm

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